Issue 14770 - non-breaking space and hyphen are undiscoverable
Summary: non-breaking space and hyphen are undiscoverable
Status: CLOSED IRREPRODUCIBLE
Alias: None
Product: Writer
Classification: Application
Component: ui (show other issues)
Version: OOo 1.0.2
Hardware: All All
: P3 Trivial (vote)
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: bettina.haberer
QA Contact: issues@sw
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Keywords: oooqa, rfe_eval_ok
Depends on:
Blocks:
 
Reported: 2003-05-23 01:35 UTC by bulbul
Modified: 2013-08-07 14:38 UTC (History)
2 users (show)

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Issue Type: ENHANCEMENT
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Developer Difficulty: ---

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Description bulbul 2003-05-23 01:35:59 UTC 
There is currently no way to discover that one can insert a non-breaking space
or non-breaking hyphen. The only way to learn about these features is to look
for them explicitly in Help. (So, you have to know that the feature exists
beforehand.)

Many people discover features by happening upon them in the menus. Furthermore,
people expect to find features they know about to be accessible through the menus. 

Therefore, i think that there should be a way to insert non-breaking spaces and
hyphens in some way under the Insert menu. WordPerfect does this (though i don´t
remember exactly where.) Maybe there should be a submenu labelled something like
¨Special formatting characters¨.
Comment 1 utomo99 2003-09-19 11:45:33 UTC 
Please try using the latest OOo 1.1 Rc4, 
Your version already old enough, and many bug fixes since your version 
and 1.1 RC4. If the problem still happend in 1.1 RC4 please report back

I think it is feature, not defect
Comment 2 bulbul 2003-09-19 16:00:36 UTC 
I will not have the ability to download RC4 for another week yet, but 
this is almost certainly not fixed. (I have been using the RCs for 
quite a while, but i'm not sure if i have actually checked one of 
them for this bug. I am away on a trip and cannot currently use OOo 
at all.)

It is very easy for anyone to verify whether this issue has been 
addressed. Simply try to access non-breaking space and non-breaking 
hyphen using the drop-down menus. If you can't, then the bug has not 
been addressed.

Hiding a useful feature from the user cannot be considered a feature, 
as you suggest. And if it were a feature, why are you suggesting that 
it has already been fixed? (We fix bugs, not features.)
Comment 3 mci 2003-10-24 14:47:09 UTC 
changed type from "Defect" to "Enhancement"

@bulbul: just type "non-breaking" in the textfield of the Index-tab of 
         the Writer help and you'll get list items like 
            "non-breaking dash",
            "non-breaking hyphens" and 
            "non-breaking spaces"

@bh:  Maybe this something for a "Tip of the Day" which existed in SO5.2
      Maybe this could be resurged again?
Comment 4 mci 2003-10-24 14:47:52 UTC 
set target
Comment 5 haxwell 2005-02-22 16:17:02 UTC 
reassigning to requirements
Comment 6 haxwell 2005-02-22 16:20:36 UTC 
confirming as a new enhancement issue.
Comment 7 pesala 2005-11-01 15:24:47 UTC 
There is currently an omission in the Help file for this in Open Office 2.0 final.

The Help file lists it under Ctrl + Shift+ Minus sign 

[quote]Ctrl+Hyphen(-) Custom hyphens; hyphenation set by you. 
Ctrl+Shift+minus sign (-) Non-breaking dash (is not used for hyphenation)[/quote]

It should also be listed as:
Ctrl + Shift + hyphen (-) Non-breaking dash (is not used for hyphenation)

There is also a difference in the behaviour with Numlock Off or On.
Comment 8 frank.meies 2007-03-20 12:33:56 UTC 
FME: Has been added to Insert -> Formatting Mark meanwhile. I'll close this issue.
Comment 9 frank.meies 2007-03-20 12:35:35 UTC 
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