Issue 42982 - Shortcut keys need Thai localization
Summary: Shortcut keys need Thai localization
Status: CLOSED NOT_AN_OOO_ISSUE
Alias: None
Product: Internationalization
Classification: Code
Component: ui (show other issues)
Version: 680m77
Hardware: All All
: P3 Trivial (vote)
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: samphan
QA Contact: issues@l10n
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Keywords: oooqa
Depends on: 42964
Blocks: 41707
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Reported: 2005-02-17 10:19 UTC by arthit
Modified: 2008-05-17 23:15 UTC (History)
5 users (show)

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Issue Type: ENHANCEMENT
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Description arthit 2005-02-17 10:19:55 UTC
For a full Thai localization, we also need to localize shortcut keys as well.

Some general shortcuts proposed:

1) Selection:
   # Select All - Ctrl-ท (ทั้งหมด)
   # Cut - Ctrl-ต (ตัด)
   # Copy - Ctrl-ล (ลอก)
   # Paste - Ctrl-ป (แปะ)


2) Text formatting*:
   # Bold - Ctrl-น (หนา)
   # Italic - Ctrl-อ (เอียง)
   # Underline - Ctrl-ส (เส้นใต้)

*characters in text formatting shortcuts are taken from
what Pladao Office (Thai localized OOo) visually used in its toolbar icons.


We need to compile a list of Thai shortcuts as in [3],
but may be after we got a list of shortcuts in OOo 2.0
([3] is for OOo 1.x).

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References:

[1] Globalization spec
http://specs.openoffice.org/g11n/

[2] Localized Shortcuts spec
http://specs.openoffice.org/g11n/menus/LocalizedShortcuts.sxw

[3] Shortcuts in different localizations of OOo 1.x
http://specs.openoffice.org/g11n/menus/ShortcutsOOo1.sxc "
Comment 1 arthit 2005-02-17 10:24:49 UTC
to make the localized shortcuts to be practically fully functional,
it also depends on

issue 42964 : Localized menu has problem matching menu shortcut with input from
keyboard
Comment 2 stefan.baltzer 2005-02-18 11:35:29 UTC
SBA: Reassigned to samphan
Comment 3 arthit 2005-02-19 03:34:39 UTC
Confirmed.
Comment 4 arthit 2005-02-19 03:35:59 UTC
Task to do (?):
- define the general agreement on how to select character for a shortcut,
  may have to consult other Thai L10n groups
  http://l10n.opentle.org/wiki/index.php/Accelerator%3B_shortcut
- translate language files (which also contains shortcut keys info)

Comment 5 jjc 2005-04-11 09:39:28 UTC
I've got the Thai localized version of Office 2003, and it does NOT localize
shortcuts (except of course Alt+underlined letter from menu).

I can see disadvantages to localizing shortcuts. Consider the normal Ctrl-X,
Ctrl-C, Ctrl-V trio: they are not really an abbreviation for anything; a user
just has to learn it.  What makes life easy for a user is that most apps use the
same shortcuts.  I think it would make life more difficult for most Thai users
if OOo used Ctrl-ต, Ctrl-ล, Ctrl-ป when everywhere else in Windows Ctl-X, Ctrl-C
and Ctrl-V are used.

Overall, I'm not sure this is a good idea.
Comment 6 arthit 2005-04-11 11:30:27 UTC
Well, thinking about this again, may be I had missed the point that James mentioned.

Ok, so it should going to be like this:

Accelarator keys: _File (Alt-F), _Edit (Alt-E), F_ormat (Alt-O) 
 --> NEED localization
  (to keep sync with UI appearences)

Shortcuts: Copy (Ctrl-C), Cut (Ctrl-X), Select All (Ctrl-A)
 --> MUST NOT be localized
  (generic key agreement, should keep it universal system-wide)


Comments are welcome.
Comment 7 samphan 2005-04-11 13:24:16 UTC
I agree with James's comment.
Comment 8 jjc 2005-09-18 03:05:36 UTC
Closing this since we've agreed to localize accelerators but not shortcuts.
Comment 9 ace_dent 2008-05-17 21:12:57 UTC
The Issue you raised has been marked as 'Resolved' and not updated within the
last 1 year+. I am therefore setting this issue to 'Verified' as the first step
towards Closing it. If you feel this is incorrect, please re-open the issue and
add any comments.

Many thanks,
Andrew
 
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Comment 10 ace_dent 2008-05-17 23:15:20 UTC
As per previous posting: Verified -> Closed.
A Closed Issue is a Happy Issue (TM).

Regards,
Andrew