Apache OpenOffice (AOO) Bugzilla – Issue 5477
changing default numbering from toolbar
Last modified: 2013-02-07 22:41:58 UTC
I have tried several times to change the default numbering system to: number without a fullstop behind [no period] and a space from text of 1cm but am unable to make this the default for the toolbar button. I have tried to make it stick to the default template but in insists on putting a period beside the number, and a small default 'from text' space. I am getting very frustrated trying to make the default suit Australian standards for documents. I have to say the Microsoft team also try to impose US standards on us too. I understand I can change temporarily from Stylist, but that's not what I want. Beside this gripe,the product so far has been outstanding, and I am amazed at all the good work that has been carried out on this product.
Thanks for posting Mike. *** Note to Sun I'll leave this as an enhancement request. The user wants the ability to set the default numbering style used when clicking on the numbering icon. *** Mike. Try posting your question to the users mailing list. Someone might have a workaround. Here's a tip you might want to try. Go to Format | Styles | Catalog Choose Numbering Styles from the drop down list. Click on the "New" button. Enter in a name for your numbering style. The "Position" tab and the "Options" tab contain the settings that you will want to modify. Once you are done creating your own style, save the text document as a template. If you open up the Stylist ( F11 or Format | Stylist ) and click on the numbering icon ( or choose Custom Styles from the drop down box ) your numbering style should be there.
SBA: I advocate the request "user-defined numbering style when clicking on the numbering icon". Reassigned to Bettina.
If this is implimented then you should also allow a user created numbering style to also be set to the default.
*** Issue 62357 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
This important issue seems to be about four years old now. The original poster mentioned Australian and US standards for documents, and I'm trying to conform to the Finnish standards. The built-in bullet style is horrible and completely useless, and working around it is difficult to do consistently. Our solution has been to disable the list/numbering buttons in the toolbar altogether, and define a new button that runs a macro that sets the current style as "List 1" or "Numbering 1". However, this doesn't allow toggling the list/numbering as the default list/numbering button does. A quick solution could be a user setting for the default list and numbering styles, either to a numbering style or a paragraph style with a numbering. This way a change in document format might not be necessary. A more proper solution might allow binding both a list and a numbering style to a paragraph style, but so that it is not active automatically, as is the case currently. For example, have both a "List style" and "Numbering style" selections in the Numbering tab. Have a check box in front of them, "Use list style automatically" and "Use numbering style automatically". Make the check boxes exclusive (but both can be off). The negative side with this solution is that l/n styles do not have paragraph settings such as margins, which might be desirable in many cases. For example, "Text body" paragraphs usually have bottom margin, but list item paragraphs often should not. Another solution might be switching the paragraph style to some defined style, either as a document setting or a style-specific setting. This would allow different paragraph settings in the lists and numbering. Toggling list off could be difficult with this approach; the program could look upwards for the previous non-list paragraph style, and then toggle to that. Yet another solution could use conditional styles. For example, when list/numbering is toggled on in Text body style, it would use a list/numbering paragraph style defined as conditional in the Text body style. Also this would allow different paragraph settings in the lists and numbering. Then there's the question of paragraph settings at ends of a list. For example, the first list item often has a bigger top margin and the last bigger bottom margin than other list items. So if, for example, the above conditional style solution would be used, there could be separate conditions for "First list item", "List item", and "Last list item", so that one could bind them to appropriate list paragraph styles.
I second this being an important issue. The default numbering is ridiculous--why would you want to have the numbering at the second level stay the same? (e.g., list with 1. on first level, and 1. on second level, instead of letters or roman numerals). The default numbering style should be more consistent with other word processing programs, and I agree that it should be easy to set the default numbering. Especially helpful for outlining/taking notes.
To grep the issues easier via "requirements" I put the issues currently lying on my owner to the owner "requirements".
*** Issue 112426 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Wow, this issue is already 8 years old... Do we have an idea if it is planned to be solved in a future version of OpenOffice?