Issue 59909 - WW8: Linked images created with TMG-software are imported square instead of "portrait"
Summary: WW8: Linked images created with TMG-software are imported square instead of "...
Status: CONFIRMED
Alias: None
Product: Writer
Classification: Application
Component: open-import (show other issues)
Version: OOo 2.0.1
Hardware: PC All
: P3 Trivial (vote)
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: AOO issues mailing list
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Keywords: oooqa
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Reported: 2005-12-31 01:46 UTC by cleave
Modified: 2017-05-20 11:25 UTC (History)
2 users (show)

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Issue Type: DEFECT
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Developer Difficulty: ---


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Word doc genrated by TMG and related images (24.31 KB, application/x-compressed)
2005-12-31 01:59 UTC, cleave
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screenshots comparing view in OOo 2.0.1 and WORD2000 (135.62 KB, image/png)
2006-01-02 07:26 UTC, Rainer Bielefeld
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images are crushed in OOo (188.99 KB, image/png)
2006-01-02 18:30 UTC, Rainer Bielefeld
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Description cleave 2005-12-31 01:46:11 UTC
There have been several postings on the TMG (The Master Genealogist) forum which
have made reference to the fact that word files (*.doc) created by TMG, while
opening ok in MSWord, when opened in Open Office Writer show images compressed
to squares, sacrificing both aspect ratio and size. While it is possible to
correct this in Open Office Writer with a few clicks per image (restore original
image size, as I recall), when there are many images this becomes quite burdensome.

I have made some tests that show that it is a characteristic of TMG's output
that triggers this problem. A file including images developed in Word (or
converted through Word) opens correctly in Open Office Writer.

As a user I would like to encourage the transition to Open Office for two
reasons. While cost of the word processing program is not much of a factor for
me, it certainly is for some others - Open Office is free. But the primary
reason is that Word fails (aborts) if there are too many footnotes/endnotes in
the TMG-created report. This acts in opposition to a genealogist's objective to
clearly document the sources of information.

In conversation with Bob Velke [TMG developer] a short time ago he indicated
that this has been a Word problem for considerable time, and that Microsoft was
notified of it several Word versions ago and has failed to fix it. This suggests
that MS doesn't consider it much of a problem and we can't look forward to a fix
very soon, if ever. There is some question of the number of footnotes generated
which cause Word to fail; I know that it fails with 4208. But OOo Writer opens
these files ok.

As a consequence of these factors, I have encouraged Wholly Genes to look into
the problem to determine the cause of the incompatibility with Open Office
Writer and either develop some kind of accommodation in TMG's output or work
with the Open Office people to resolve the issue in Writer. I have been told
separately that there's a principle that if Word will open a file correctly then
OOo Writer should too. 

To avoid any confusion on the subject, the problem exists even with small files
generated by TMG; the large number of footnotes problem is only a reason I'd
like to migrate.

It was suggested that I provide a sample file with this submission, but I see no
provision for it.  Upon request I'll be happy to provide one, along with linked
image files which need to be in a specific directory to illustrate the problem.

Dick
Comment 1 cleave 2005-12-31 01:59:41 UTC
Created attachment 32790 [details]
Word doc genrated by TMG and related images
Comment 2 Rainer Bielefeld 2006-01-02 07:23:27 UTC
@cleave :
Can you please tell us with 3 short sentences what you expect from OOo?

I checked with "2.0.1 RC5 German version WIN XP: [680m1(Build8990)]", where the
images were shown correctly. In WORD2000 the images are not shown, pls. see
screenshots.
Comment 3 Rainer Bielefeld 2006-01-02 07:26:08 UTC
Created attachment 32827 [details]
screenshots comparing view in OOo 2.0.1 and WORD2000
Comment 4 cleave 2006-01-02 13:57:37 UTC
I have no idea why word 2000 doesn't show the graphics.  Did you edit/links,
select all listed graphics and then "update?"

The pictures in the OOo view are "scrunched" down. Right click on graphic,
select picture, click on "Original size" and OK.

Dick
Comment 5 Rainer Bielefeld 2006-01-02 18:29:14 UTC
Yes, now I see, OOo shows images are square instead of "portrait"
I also checked with "1.1.4 (German) WIN XP: [645m52 (Build 8824)]": same effect.

I did some further tests (all with "2.0.1 RC5 German version"):
Opened "JKCJournal.doc" with WORD 2000, made images visible, saved under new
name as ".doc". Images Images in new document still look square in OOo "2.0.1
RC5 German version"

Opened "JKCJournal.doc" with WORD 2000, made images visible, changed images to
"embedded", saved under new name as ".doc". Images in new document
_now_look_fine in OOo "2.0.1 RC5 German version"
Comment 6 Rainer Bielefeld 2006-01-02 18:30:34 UTC
Created attachment 32846 [details]
images are crushed in OOo
Comment 7 michael.ruess 2006-01-04 17:23:00 UTC
MRU->FLR: the Graphics are imported with a size of 4cm x 4cm. The original size
seems to be ignored here.
BTW: when viewing with Word, the links have to be updated to see the images.
Comment 8 cleave 2006-08-12 20:42:43 UTC
Note that it was reported over 6 months ago; I keep hoping the resolution will
show up in a new rekease, but no luck so far.  I would prefer to use OO to
document my genealogy work; can anyone give me an idea of when it might be
worked on?
Comment 9 Mathias_Bauer 2006-08-30 14:54:40 UTC
assigned to hbrinkm
Comment 10 Marcus 2017-05-20 11:24:22 UTC
Reset assigne to the default "issues@openoffice.apache.org".
Comment 11 Marcus 2017-05-20 11:25:52 UTC
Reset assigne to the default "issues@openoffice.apache.org".